Genealogy Software preferences
Good morning, I'm curious to know what genealogy software various users are
using on their own personal computer to maintain their databases... I'm
currently using Legacy 9, which is ok, but doesn't sync/interact with
Ancestry.com. Various others do (RootsMagic, Family Tree Maker), but not
sure how good their report printing features are (I need to be able to
print a descendant book in a fashion that most Amish family descendant
books are printed, which I can sort of do with Legacy using some
"hacks")... Anyway, any feedback is welcome, much appreciated...!
Thanks!
Jason Miller
Millersburg, OH
Jason, I use Family Tree Maker and really like it a lot. I upload GEDCOM
to my TNG site (https://vitter.org/familytree). FTM does reports, as does
TNG itself.
-- Jeff
--
Dr. Jeffrey S. Vitter
+1 (504) 810-7610
jsv@vitter.org | www.vitter.org
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 9:07 AM Jason Miller via List <
list@maillist.saga-omii.org> wrote:
Good morning, I'm curious to know what genealogy software various users
are using on their own personal computer to maintain their databases... I'm
currently using Legacy 9, which is ok, but doesn't sync/interact with
Ancestry.com. Various others do (RootsMagic, Family Tree Maker), but not
sure how good their report printing features are (I need to be able to
print a descendant book in a fashion that most Amish family descendant
books are printed, which I can sort of do with Legacy using some
"hacks")... Anyway, any feedback is welcome, much appreciated...!
Thanks!
Jason Miller
Millersburg, OH
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I use Family Tree Maker, and Family Book Creator (plug-in to FTM).
From: Jason Miller via List list@maillist.saga-omii.org
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Good morning, I'm curious to know what genealogy software various users are using on their own personal computer to maintain their databases... I'm currently using Legacy 9, which is ok, but doesn't sync/interact with Ancestry.com. Various others do (RootsMagic, Family Tree Maker), but not sure how good their report printing features are (I need to be able to print a descendant book in a fashion that most Amish family descendant books are printed, which I can sort of do with Legacy using some "hacks")... Anyway, any feedback is welcome, much appreciated...!
Thanks!
Jason Miller
Millersburg, OH
I use Legacy. I am creating a hemophilia tree from 1750-current, and this allows me to delete irrelevant branches, create documents, etc. I can also sync it with FamilySearch (both directions), of which I am a great fan.
I very much dislike Ancestry, for 2 reasons: 1) expensive to keep up the international subscription (so I can research records in Europe, as well as U.S.) and if you don't pay, you lose access to work already done; 2) Ancestry makes no attempt to create a single family tree for the same individuals, hence you have to weed through possibly dozens, checking all their data, before being able to figure out what is actually backed up by records.
FamilySearch provides loads of free record access (I have found them to be comparable to Ancestry;s records), including many Mennonite/Amish genealogy books that are digital. ONE page for each individual, backed up with as many records as can be found by multiple contributors. You can directly email contributors if you disagree with something they have changed, and discuss the best way to handle any discrepancies. For example, how should we enter Jacob Hochstetler's first wife, who was killed by the Indians? Is she "Mrs. Hochstetler", or is she "Elizabeth Burki" (for which there are no records, only conjecture).
I'm just a BIG fan of creating one single tree, rather than multiple, incomplete and (often) inaccurate ones.
--Rebecca Goring
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Subject: [List] Genealogy Software preferences
Good morning, I'm curious to know what genealogy software various users are using on their own personal computer to maintain their databases... I'm currently using Legacy 9, which is ok, but doesn't sync/interact with Ancestry.com. Various others do (RootsMagic, Family Tree Maker), but not sure how good their report printing features are (I need to be able to print a descendant book in a fashion that most Amish family descendant books are printed, which I can sort of do with Legacy using some "hacks")... Anyway, any feedback is welcome, much appreciated...!
Thanks!Jason MillerMillersburg, OH
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Rebecca:
Thank you for your comments on Ancestry / Family Search. As a long time
user of both services, I've had similar experiences with each service and
come to the same conclusions as you.
My "tree" on these services is only a summary one. My complete tree is on
SAGA.
I do have a subscription to Legacy's partner "My Heritage". MH includes
access to a robust group of European sources and they are involved in
important DNA work.
---- for what it is worth,
Don Smith
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 9:11 AM REBECCA GORING via List <
list@maillist.saga-omii.org> wrote:
I use Legacy. I am creating a hemophilia tree from 1750-current, and this
allows me to delete irrelevant branches, create documents, etc. I can also
sync it with FamilySearch (both directions), of which I am a great fan.
I very much dislike Ancestry, for 2 reasons: 1) expensive to keep up the
international subscription (so I can research records in Europe, as well as
U.S.) and if you don't pay, you lose access to work already done; 2)
Ancestry makes no attempt to create a single family tree for the same
individuals, hence you have to weed through possibly dozens, checking all
their data, before being able to figure out what is actually backed up by
records.
FamilySearch provides loads of free record access (I have found them to be
comparable to Ancestry;s records), including many Mennonite/Amish genealogy
books that are digital. ONE page for each individual, backed up with as
many records as can be found by multiple contributors. You can directly
email contributors if you disagree with something they have changed, and
discuss the best way to handle any discrepancies. For example, how should
we enter Jacob Hochstetler's first wife, who was killed by the Indians? Is
she "Mrs. Hochstetler", or is she "Elizabeth Burki" (for which there are no
records, only conjecture).
I'm just a BIG fan of creating one single tree, rather than multiple,
incomplete and (often) inaccurate ones. [image: Blush]
--Rebecca Goring
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From: Jason Miller via List list@maillist.saga-omii.org
To: list@maillist.saga-omii.org
Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2022 9:06 am
Subject: [List] Genealogy Software preferences
Good morning, I'm curious to know what genealogy software various users
are using on their own personal computer to maintain their databases... I'm
currently using Legacy 9, which is ok, but doesn't sync/interact with
Ancestry.com. Various others do (RootsMagic, Family Tree Maker), but not
sure how good their report printing features are (I need to be able to
print a descendant book in a fashion that most Amish family descendant
books are printed, which I can sort of do with Legacy using some
"hacks")... Anyway, any feedback is welcome, much appreciated...!
Thanks!
Jason Miller
Millersburg, OH
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(TL;DR) Check out MyHeritage as an alternative to Ancestry.
When I first started this quest about 25 years ago, my mother and I both
used Generations Family Tree software. It was rather basic and after a few
years when it started to go through some corporate changes, I converted to
what I considered the best-of-show at the time, The Master Genealogist
(TMG). I wasn't thrilled about TMG's underlying database software, but it
beat everything else for flexibility and features. That ended in 2014 when
the developer retired, made the licenses perpetual, and closed the
business. I again looked at what else was available, but moving to
anything else looked to be a big step backwards so I stuck with it and
still use it today. Since you can't easily pick up a copy of TMG, I wasn't
going to add to this conversation except that Ancestry got thrown into the
mix.
When I discovered Ancestry in 2007, its family tree functionality was
pretty basic, and frankly it hasn't improved much in the past couple of
decades, but its collection of on-line copies of source materials was
amazing. I continue to pay for the US only subscription fees solely to
access its collection of source materials (I rarely have to go to the local
LDS church anymore :-). As more of my tree has reached back into Europe,
I've been tempted to get Ancestry's International search upgrade but the
additional cost has always put me off. As an alternative, a few years back
I got a free (albeit limited) subscription to MyHeritage through my account
at 23andMe. After a while, I paid for a regular subscription to MyHeritage
and, because it is less US centric, it did not distinguish between US and
International database searches. Its pricing is about the same as
Ancestry's but without the added International fee. Now MyHeritage's
family tree functionality isn't a whole lot better than Ancestry's, but it
certainly isn't any worse and they've been pretty good about finding and
alerting me to matches with other trees and sources, both internal and
external. In any case, with both of these services I only use their family
tree functionality to provide access to my research by uploading a GEDCOM
file.
As a side note, MyHeritage recently incorporated several on-line databases
of old French vital records and has been finding or proving a number of my
Schrock and Ledig links in the Alsace region. It's been well worth the
price of admission.
Stephen Hansen
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 9:12 AM REBECCA GORING via List <
list@maillist.saga-omii.org> wrote:
I use Legacy. I am creating a hemophilia tree from 1750-current, and this
allows me to delete irrelevant branches, create documents, etc. I can also
sync it with FamilySearch (both directions), of which I am a great fan.
I very much dislike Ancestry, for 2 reasons: 1) expensive to keep up the
international subscription (so I can research records in Europe, as well as
U.S.) and if you don't pay, you lose access to work already done; 2)
Ancestry makes no attempt to create a single family tree for the same
individuals, hence you have to weed through possibly dozens, checking all
their data, before being able to figure out what is actually backed up by
records.
FamilySearch provides loads of free record access (I have found them to be
comparable to Ancestry;s records), including many Mennonite/Amish genealogy
books that are digital. ONE page for each individual, backed up with as
many records as can be found by multiple contributors. You can directly
email contributors if you disagree with something they have changed, and
discuss the best way to handle any discrepancies. For example, how should
we enter Jacob Hochstetler's first wife, who was killed by the Indians? Is
she "Mrs. Hochstetler", or is she "Elizabeth Burki" (for which there are no
records, only conjecture).
I'm just a BIG fan of creating one single tree, rather than multiple,
incomplete and (often) inaccurate ones. [image: Blush]
--Rebecca Goring
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From: Jason Miller via List list@maillist.saga-omii.org
To: list@maillist.saga-omii.org
Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2022 9:06 am
Subject: [List] Genealogy Software preferences
Good morning, I'm curious to know what genealogy software various users
are using on their own personal computer to maintain their databases... I'm
currently using Legacy 9, which is ok, but doesn't sync/interact with
Ancestry.com. Various others do (RootsMagic, Family Tree Maker), but not
sure how good their report printing features are (I need to be able to
print a descendant book in a fashion that most Amish family descendant
books are printed, which I can sort of do with Legacy using some
"hacks")... Anyway, any feedback is welcome, much appreciated...!
Thanks!
Jason Miller
Millersburg, OH
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Jason---
I use Family Tree Maker and have for 20+ years so am reluctant to switch.
It does all the things I want it to do so I'm happy. I used it to produce a
genealogy book a number of years ago and was well satisfied with the
results.
I have not gotten into Ancestry because I'm also afraid of losing data if I
quit it down the line. I am looking at subscribing to MyHeritage and am
curious if it has the same problem as Ancestry about access to your data
long term.
---Merle
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 2:09 PM Stephen Hansen via List <
list@maillist.saga-omii.org> wrote:
(TL;DR) Check out MyHeritage as an alternative to Ancestry.
When I first started this quest about 25 years ago, my mother and I both
used Generations Family Tree software. It was rather basic and after a few
years when it started to go through some corporate changes, I converted to
what I considered the best-of-show at the time, The Master Genealogist
(TMG). I wasn't thrilled about TMG's underlying database software, but it
beat everything else for flexibility and features. That ended in 2014 when
the developer retired, made the licenses perpetual, and closed the
business. I again looked at what else was available, but moving to
anything else looked to be a big step backwards so I stuck with it and
still use it today. Since you can't easily pick up a copy of TMG, I wasn't
going to add to this conversation except that Ancestry got thrown into the
mix.
When I discovered Ancestry in 2007, its family tree functionality was
pretty basic, and frankly it hasn't improved much in the past couple of
decades, but its collection of on-line copies of source materials was
amazing. I continue to pay for the US only subscription fees solely to
access its collection of source materials (I rarely have to go to the local
LDS church anymore :-). As more of my tree has reached back into Europe,
I've been tempted to get Ancestry's International search upgrade but the
additional cost has always put me off. As an alternative, a few years back
I got a free (albeit limited) subscription to MyHeritage through my account
at 23andMe. After a while, I paid for a regular subscription to MyHeritage
and, because it is less US centric, it did not distinguish between US and
International database searches. Its pricing is about the same as
Ancestry's but without the added International fee. Now MyHeritage's
family tree functionality isn't a whole lot better than Ancestry's, but it
certainly isn't any worse and they've been pretty good about finding and
alerting me to matches with other trees and sources, both internal and
external. In any case, with both of these services I only use their family
tree functionality to provide access to my research by uploading a GEDCOM
file.
As a side note, MyHeritage recently incorporated several on-line databases
of old French vital records and has been finding or proving a number of my
Schrock and Ledig links in the Alsace region. It's been well worth the
price of admission.
Stephen Hansen
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 9:12 AM REBECCA GORING via List <
list@maillist.saga-omii.org> wrote:
I use Legacy. I am creating a hemophilia tree from 1750-current, and
this allows me to delete irrelevant branches, create documents, etc. I can
also sync it with FamilySearch (both directions), of which I am a great
fan.
I very much dislike Ancestry, for 2 reasons: 1) expensive to keep up the
international subscription (so I can research records in Europe, as well as
U.S.) and if you don't pay, you lose access to work already done; 2)
Ancestry makes no attempt to create a single family tree for the same
individuals, hence you have to weed through possibly dozens, checking all
their data, before being able to figure out what is actually backed up by
records.
FamilySearch provides loads of free record access (I have found them to
be comparable to Ancestry;s records), including many Mennonite/Amish
genealogy books that are digital. ONE page for each individual, backed up
with as many records as can be found by multiple contributors. You can
directly email contributors if you disagree with something they have
changed, and discuss the best way to handle any discrepancies. For example,
how should we enter Jacob Hochstetler's first wife, who was killed by the
Indians? Is she "Mrs. Hochstetler", or is she "Elizabeth Burki" (for which
there are no records, only conjecture).
I'm just a BIG fan of creating one single tree, rather than multiple,
incomplete and (often) inaccurate ones. [image: Blush]
--Rebecca Goring
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Miller via List list@maillist.saga-omii.org
To: list@maillist.saga-omii.org
Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2022 9:06 am
Subject: [List] Genealogy Software preferences
Good morning, I'm curious to know what genealogy software various users
are using on their own personal computer to maintain their databases... I'm
currently using Legacy 9, which is ok, but doesn't sync/interact with
Ancestry.com. Various others do (RootsMagic, Family Tree Maker), but not
sure how good their report printing features are (I need to be able to
print a descendant book in a fashion that most Amish family descendant
books are printed, which I can sort of do with Legacy using some
"hacks")... Anyway, any feedback is welcome, much appreciated...!
Thanks!
Jason Miller
Millersburg, OH
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I have been happy with Geni.com. I can usually tie a living person into the
World Tree within 4 generations. The World Tree is massive (more than 173
million profiles) and has a lot of really good data. This means I can get a
fully built tree without too much effort. I'm also comforted by the fact
that my work is not wasted and others can benefit from it.
I wish saga-omii would collaborate with them and upload the entire database
to Geni.
Be warned though that Geni is not great at all for printing trees.
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 10:24 PM Merle Christner via List <
list@maillist.saga-omii.org> wrote:
Jason---
I use Family Tree Maker and have for 20+ years so am reluctant to switch.
It does all the things I want it to do so I'm happy. I used it to produce a
genealogy book a number of years ago and was well satisfied with the
results.
I have not gotten into Ancestry because I'm also afraid of losing data if
I quit it down the line. I am looking at subscribing to MyHeritage and am
curious if it has the same problem as Ancestry about access to your data
long term.
---Merle
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 2:09 PM Stephen Hansen via List <
list@maillist.saga-omii.org> wrote:
(TL;DR) Check out MyHeritage as an alternative to Ancestry.
When I first started this quest about 25 years ago, my mother and I both
used Generations Family Tree software. It was rather basic and after a few
years when it started to go through some corporate changes, I converted to
what I considered the best-of-show at the time, The Master Genealogist
(TMG). I wasn't thrilled about TMG's underlying database software, but it
beat everything else for flexibility and features. That ended in 2014 when
the developer retired, made the licenses perpetual, and closed the
business. I again looked at what else was available, but moving to
anything else looked to be a big step backwards so I stuck with it and
still use it today. Since you can't easily pick up a copy of TMG, I wasn't
going to add to this conversation except that Ancestry got thrown into the
mix.
When I discovered Ancestry in 2007, its family tree functionality was
pretty basic, and frankly it hasn't improved much in the past couple of
decades, but its collection of on-line copies of source materials was
amazing. I continue to pay for the US only subscription fees solely to
access its collection of source materials (I rarely have to go to the local
LDS church anymore :-). As more of my tree has reached back into Europe,
I've been tempted to get Ancestry's International search upgrade but the
additional cost has always put me off. As an alternative, a few years back
I got a free (albeit limited) subscription to MyHeritage through my account
at 23andMe. After a while, I paid for a regular subscription to MyHeritage
and, because it is less US centric, it did not distinguish between US and
International database searches. Its pricing is about the same as
Ancestry's but without the added International fee. Now MyHeritage's
family tree functionality isn't a whole lot better than Ancestry's, but it
certainly isn't any worse and they've been pretty good about finding and
alerting me to matches with other trees and sources, both internal and
external. In any case, with both of these services I only use their family
tree functionality to provide access to my research by uploading a GEDCOM
file.
As a side note, MyHeritage recently incorporated several on-line
databases of old French vital records and has been finding or proving a
number of my Schrock and Ledig links in the Alsace region. It's been well
worth the price of admission.
Stephen Hansen
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 9:12 AM REBECCA GORING via List <
list@maillist.saga-omii.org> wrote:
I use Legacy. I am creating a hemophilia tree from 1750-current, and
this allows me to delete irrelevant branches, create documents, etc. I can
also sync it with FamilySearch (both directions), of which I am a great
fan.
I very much dislike Ancestry, for 2 reasons: 1) expensive to keep up the
international subscription (so I can research records in Europe, as well as
U.S.) and if you don't pay, you lose access to work already done; 2)
Ancestry makes no attempt to create a single family tree for the same
individuals, hence you have to weed through possibly dozens, checking all
their data, before being able to figure out what is actually backed up by
records.
FamilySearch provides loads of free record access (I have found them to
be comparable to Ancestry;s records), including many Mennonite/Amish
genealogy books that are digital. ONE page for each individual, backed up
with as many records as can be found by multiple contributors. You can
directly email contributors if you disagree with something they have
changed, and discuss the best way to handle any discrepancies. For example,
how should we enter Jacob Hochstetler's first wife, who was killed by the
Indians? Is she "Mrs. Hochstetler", or is she "Elizabeth Burki" (for which
there are no records, only conjecture).
I'm just a BIG fan of creating one single tree, rather than multiple,
incomplete and (often) inaccurate ones. [image: Blush]
--Rebecca Goring
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From: Jason Miller via List list@maillist.saga-omii.org
To: list@maillist.saga-omii.org
Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2022 9:06 am
Subject: [List] Genealogy Software preferences
Good morning, I'm curious to know what genealogy software various users
are using on their own personal computer to maintain their databases... I'm
currently using Legacy 9, which is ok, but doesn't sync/interact with
Ancestry.com. Various others do (RootsMagic, Family Tree Maker), but not
sure how good their report printing features are (I need to be able to
print a descendant book in a fashion that most Amish family descendant
books are printed, which I can sort of do with Legacy using some
"hacks")... Anyway, any feedback is welcome, much appreciated...!
Thanks!
Jason Miller
Millersburg, OH
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When it comes to software and depending on your computer literacy you can consider https://tngsitebuilding.com/ This package can be hosted by a firm or you can place a fully functional working copy onto a USB drive and work with it from any computer.
When considering a genealogy software solution these days you should consider what it can provide in terms of handling yDNA and mtDNA result data. Autosomal results for Amish/Mennonites have limited utility due to our inbreeding. Being able to have distant cousin DNA haplogroup test results present will make it easier to confirm specific maternal or paternal lineages are consistent between paper and DNA results. yDNA haplogroup results are needed to confirm specific paternal lineage relationships for at least the Kauffman and Miller lines.
Note that having a current test result does NOT validate paper trail back within the US or back across the puddle. Multiple DNA results from distant cousins provide strong support for existing paper trails leading back to a shared common paternal or maternal ancestor.
Wayne Kauffman
On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 10:24:33 PM EDT, Merle Christner via List <list@maillist.saga-omii.org> wrote:
Jason---
I use Family Tree Maker and have for 20+ years so am reluctant to switch. It does all the things I want it to do so I'm happy. I used it to produce a genealogy book a number of years ago and was well satisfied with the results.
I have not gotten into Ancestry because I'm also afraid of losing data if I quit it down the line. I am looking at subscribing to MyHeritage and am curious if it has the same problem as Ancestry about access to your data long term.
---Merle
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 2:09 PM Stephen Hansen via List list@maillist.saga-omii.org wrote:
(TL;DR) Check out MyHeritage as an alternative to Ancestry.
When I first started this quest about 25 years ago, my mother and I both used Generations Family Tree software. It was rather basic and after a few years when it started to go through some corporate changes, I converted to what I considered the best-of-show at the time, The Master Genealogist (TMG). I wasn't thrilled about TMG's underlying database software, but it beat everything else for flexibility and features. That ended in 2014 when the developer retired, made the licenses perpetual, and closed the business. I again looked at what else was available, but moving to anything else looked to be a big step backwards so I stuck with it and still use it today. Since you can't easily pick up a copy of TMG, I wasn't going to add to this conversation except that Ancestry got thrown into the mix.
When I discovered Ancestry in 2007, its family tree functionality was pretty basic, and frankly it hasn't improved much in the past couple of decades, but its collection of on-line copies of source materials was amazing. I continue to pay for the US only subscription fees solely to access its collection of source materials (I rarely have to go to the local LDS church anymore :-). As more of my tree has reached back into Europe, I've been tempted to get Ancestry's International search upgrade but the additional cost has always put me off. As an alternative, a few years back I got a free (albeit limited) subscription to MyHeritage through my account at 23andMe. After a while, I paid for a regular subscription to MyHeritage and, because it is less US centric, it did not distinguish between US and International database searches. Its pricing is about the same as Ancestry's but without the added International fee. Now MyHeritage's family tree functionality isn't a whole lot better than Ancestry's, but it certainly isn't any worse and they've been pretty good about finding and alerting me to matches with other trees and sources, both internal and external. In any case, with both of these services I only use their family tree functionality to provide access to my research by uploading a GEDCOM file.
As a side note, MyHeritage recently incorporated several on-line databases of old French vital records and has been finding or proving a number of my Schrock and Ledig links in the Alsace region. It's been well worth the price of admission.
Stephen Hansen
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 9:12 AM REBECCA GORING via List list@maillist.saga-omii.org wrote:
I use Legacy. I am creating a hemophilia tree from 1750-current, and this allows me to delete irrelevant branches, create documents, etc. I can also sync it with FamilySearch (both directions), of which I am a great fan.
I very much dislike Ancestry, for 2 reasons: 1) expensive to keep up the international subscription (so I can research records in Europe, as well as U.S.) and if you don't pay, you lose access to work already done; 2) Ancestry makes no attempt to create a single family tree for the same individuals, hence you have to weed through possibly dozens, checking all their data, before being able to figure out what is actually backed up by records.
FamilySearch provides loads of free record access (I have found them to be comparable to Ancestry;s records), including many Mennonite/Amish genealogy books that are digital. ONE page for each individual, backed up with as many records as can be found by multiple contributors. You can directly email contributors if you disagree with something they have changed, and discuss the best way to handle any discrepancies. For example, how should we enter Jacob Hochstetler's first wife, who was killed by the Indians? Is she "Mrs. Hochstetler", or is she "Elizabeth Burki" (for which there are no records, only conjecture).
I'm just a BIG fan of creating one single tree, rather than multiple, incomplete and (often) inaccurate ones.
--Rebecca Goring
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From: Jason Miller via List list@maillist.saga-omii.org
To: list@maillist.saga-omii.org
Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2022 9:06 am
Subject: [List] Genealogy Software preferences
Good morning, I'm curious to know what genealogy software various users are using on their own personal computer to maintain their databases... I'm currently using Legacy 9, which is ok, but doesn't sync/interact with Ancestry.com. Various others do (RootsMagic, Family Tree Maker), but not sure how good their report printing features are (I need to be able to print a descendant book in a fashion that most Amish family descendant books are printed, which I can sort of do with Legacy using some "hacks")... Anyway, any feedback is welcome, much appreciated...!
Thanks!Jason MillerMillersburg, OH
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Merle,
We use FTM also and absolutely love it. We upload GEDCOM to our TNG public site (tho going forward we will probably use a local installation of TNG and just upload the database tables and media to my public site).
TNG syncs extremely well automatically with Ancestry, and you can easily add Ancestry data from other trees to your Ancestry tree using an interactive interface, and then you can sync it back to FTM automatically. So you don’t have to worry about quitting Ancestry at a later date. Everything will be in your FTM tree via the automatic sync.
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On Nov 4, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Merle Christner via List <list@maillist.saga-omii.org> wrote:
Jason---
I use Family Tree Maker and have for 20+ years so am reluctant to switch. It does all the things I want it to do so I'm happy. I used it to produce a genealogy book a number of years ago and was well satisfied with the results.
I have not gotten into Ancestry because I'm also afraid of losing data if I quit it down the line. I am looking at subscribing to MyHeritage and am curious if it has the same problem as Ancestry about access to your data long term.
---Merle
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 2:09 PM Stephen Hansen via List <list@maillist.saga-omii.org> wrote:
(TL;DR) Check out MyHeritage as an alternative to Ancestry.
When I first started this quest about 25 years ago, my mother and I both used Generations Family Tree software. It was rather basic and after a few years when it started to go through some corporate changes, I converted to what I considered the best-of-show at the time, The Master Genealogist (TMG). I wasn't thrilled about TMG's underlying database software, but it beat everything else for flexibility and features. That ended in 2014 when the developer retired, made the licenses perpetual, and closed the business. I again looked at what else was available, but moving to anything else looked to be a big step backwards so I stuck with it and still use it today. Since you can't easily pick up a copy of TMG, I wasn't going to add to this conversation except that Ancestry got thrown into the mix.
When I discovered Ancestry in 2007, its family tree functionality was pretty basic, and frankly it hasn't improved much in the past couple of decades, but its collection of on-line copies of source materials was amazing. I continue to pay for the US only subscription fees solely to access its collection of source materials (I rarely have to go to the local LDS church anymore :-). As more of my tree has reached back into Europe, I've been tempted to get Ancestry's International search upgrade but the additional cost has always put me off. As an alternative, a few years back I got a free (albeit limited) subscription to MyHeritage through my account at 23andMe. After a while, I paid for a regular subscription to MyHeritage and, because it is less US centric, it did not distinguish between US and International database searches. Its pricing is about the same as Ancestry's but without the added International fee. Now MyHeritage's family tree functionality isn't a whole lot better than Ancestry's, but it certainly isn't any worse and they've been pretty good about finding and alerting me to matches with other trees and sources, both internal and external. In any case, with both of these services I only use their family tree functionality to provide access to my research by uploading a GEDCOM file.
As a side note, MyHeritage recently incorporated several on-line databases of old French vital records and has been finding or proving a number of my Schrock and Ledig links in the Alsace region. It's been well worth the price of admission.
Stephen Hansen
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 9:12 AM REBECCA GORING via List <list@maillist.saga-omii.org> wrote:
I use Legacy. I am creating a hemophilia tree from 1750-current, and this allows me to delete irrelevant branches, create documents, etc. I can also sync it with FamilySearch (both directions), of which I am a great fan.
I very much dislike Ancestry, for 2 reasons: 1) expensive to keep up the international subscription (so I can research records in Europe, as well as U.S.) and if you don't pay, you lose access to work already done; 2) Ancestry makes no attempt to create a single family tree for the same individuals, hence you have to weed through possibly dozens, checking all their data, before being able to figure out what is actually backed up by records.
FamilySearch provides loads of free record access (I have found them to be comparable to Ancestry;s records), including many Mennonite/Amish genealogy books that are digital. ONE page for each individual, backed up with as many records as can be found by multiple contributors. You can directly email contributors if you disagree with something they have changed, and discuss the best way to handle any discrepancies. For example, how should we enter Jacob Hochstetler's first wife, who was killed by the Indians? Is she "Mrs. Hochstetler", or is she "Elizabeth Burki" (for which there are no records, only conjecture).
I'm just a BIG fan of creating one single tree, rather than multiple, incomplete and (often) inaccurate ones.
--Rebecca Goring
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Subject: [List] Genealogy Software preferencesGood morning, I'm curious to know what genealogy software various users are using on their own personal computer to maintain their databases... I'm currently using Legacy 9, which is ok, but doesn't sync/interact with Ancestry.com. Various others do (RootsMagic, Family Tree Maker), but not sure how good their report printing features are (I need to be able to print a descendant book in a fashion that most Amish family descendant books are printed, which I can sort of do with Legacy using some "hacks")... Anyway, any feedback is welcome, much appreciated...!
Thanks!
Jason Miller
Millersburg, OH
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